Genesis 21:8-21
The God of Ishmael

        Abram obedient to the promise of God left Ur traveling first up to Haran in the North, then down into Canaan in the South West – to a land that was one day to be named after his grandson, ‘Israel’. It was in the Chaldeans that God renamed him Abraham, and so Abraham pitched his tent in the land to which he was led claiming what he had been told by faith to be the homeland of his seed. This in the natural made possible in the spiritual as explained in Gal 3:15-16 "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ."

        Abraham was around 99 years old when told he and Sarah would have a son, Sarah laughed when she heard the prophecy. When the prophecy did not appear forthcoming, Sarah gave her maid servant Hagar to Abraham to sire a son. Hagar the servant then had Ishmael by Abraham, a few years later Sarah was finally with child and had Isaac. At this point Sarah tells Abraham to get rid of Hagar and Ishmael, she apparently does not want this oldest son of a slave woman to be his heir being the custom of that day.

        Abraham was a wealthy man, however he obediently sends Hagar and Ishmael off with one loaf of bread and a bottle of water – one bottle of water between the two of them – and sends them off into the desert. When Hagar and Ishmael had traveled a good distance into this arid land far from the camp, and their water was gone, she could not stand to watch Ishmael die, so she places him beneath some brambles and goes off a distance crying to die alone. But God ‘hears the cry of the boy' and He comes to save both mother and son from death.

        Scripture does not say God heard Hagar cry, instead, Genesis 21:17 “God heard the voice of the boy, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, "What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the boy where he is”. God had plans for Ishmael, God had made promises to Ishmael. God was going to build out of Ishmael a mighty nation. The promises and this mighty nation do NOT form any central part of the ongoing Biblical narrative, yet what else of the following era matches what is seen as the second largest religion of the world, other than that of the Muslim. Concerning the teachings of the Qur'an, do they follow what we know of the purposes of the One true God. As far as from error of false teaching from the Qur'an, Talmud or Torah, and even the Protestant Bible, there are many teaching and prophecy accepted among all three worthy of then being called a false cult.

        In our Christian Bible, the story of Ishmael more or less finishes here. In the Qur'an though we read of Ishmael going on to Mecca and building a Mosque. He becomes the physical father of a nation among the Arab peoples, and spiritual father to what shall become an Islamic community. Within the Christian community perhaps the misreading of the Christian Bible concerning Ishmael and Isaac presented in figurative sense representing symbolic meaning, and here the greatest fault has misunderstanding, in verse saying Gal 4:24-27 "These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written: "Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband." The meaning draws attention to the natural and spiritual promise, it rejects neither Ishmael nor Isaac. Instead we are told figuratively the two women represent nations of man, and from this comes Gods promise of the spiritual Kingdom now in heaven.

        The Ashkenazi Jews of Khazarian heritage claim they are "Semitic" descent from Abraham. However the bible tells us they MUST ALSO BE Shemites, as they are his direct descendants. Ishmael, the son of Hagar, had twelve sons of his own; and these sons became known to the worlds understanding as the Arabs! So, the Ishmael Arabs are Shemites. Isaac, son of Sarah, is also, therefore, a Shemite. And Keturah's six sons are also Shemites. But none of these people are ever given credit by the Ashkenazi Khazarian Jews for their OBVIOUS SHEMITIC DESCENT - through Abraham!

        Consequently, it can be easily seen that the Jewish assertion that ONLY JEWS are included in the context of Gen. 12:3 is SHEER PRETENSE! The Jewish version of the Bible, unless from the Babylon Talmud just doesn't add up! It makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever! It's all self-serving nonsense, promoted as Scripture by the Talmudic rabbinical cult.

        Tracing the true genealogy of the Jewish people through the Bible and through history, finds the Ashkenazi Khazarian (Jewish) people in the most part are neither Shemites, Hebrews, Israelites or Judahites. All of these claims are simply false, and these false claims are, when added together, THE GREAT IMPERSONATION of Israel by a completely different people altogether, a people, who are actually Israel's WORST ENEMIES, but who have devised a brilliant strategy of staging a coup over their enemies and then proceeding to assume their identity.

        Everyone has heard of the concept of IDENTITY THEFT, but it is always applied to individuals. That is, we always hear about one person stealing the identity of another person; but RARELY do we hear of one people stealing the identity of another people. Such an idea is utterly incomprehensible to most Christians - not to mention all other people - but that is exactly what the Ashkenazi Khazarian people have done! They are non-Israelites, geneticist Eran Elkaik in year-2013 published his research in the Oxford journal, Genome Biology and Evolution, showing the vast majority of Ashkenazi Jewish have genome heritage to the Khazar Empire of the Caucasus down into Turkey, forced to convert by their king Bulan in 740AD, as political need when found surrounded by Christian, Muslim, and Judaic (Babylon Talmud) religions.

        Here is what I know the Lord has said concerning those called the remnant elect, those Paul assures God have not rejected, Christ explains as beginning at the point of temporary hardened heart, Matt 23:39 "For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'" Repeating again Paul's assurance that the true upright and righteous as doers of the the law have not been rejected, a people then as the Old Testament prophesies, these faithful in the very last days given this promise, Matt 5:8 "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God." Is it so difficult to understand the promises of God are not limited in time, continuing today as part of the New Covenant fulfilling all that has been written, then consider this verse, Rom 8:39 "...neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." And this love gives meaning to the continued gathering of our Lord told in Eph 4:8 "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men."

        Also concerning this covenant of law in faith broken by a people in the land of Israel, it was not the law that was broken nor ended as Christ makes clear, and as Paul clearly states there are others that live by and have kept the law. If then the law has not ended and there are a people obedient as though doers of the law, gives understanding to verse telling of a people that will be judged by the law, as well as a people judged by grace, both living by faith as told in Rom 2:12-16 "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." [KJV]

The following excerpt is taken from 'http://christianthinktank.com/topix.html', specifically on topic of Ishmael:

  1. Ishmael is the progenitor of many Arabs, INCLUDING ARAB Christians.

  2. Isaac is the progenitor of all Jews, INCLUDING Jewish atheists and Jewish Christians.

  3. Most Christians (non-Jewish, non-Arabian, plus a few other groups--e.g. Esau) are NOT physical descendants of Abraham at all (only descendants by faith, as are Arab Christians and Chinese Christians and African Christians.

  4. Not all Muslims are Arabs (obviously--since there are Jewish Muslims, English Muslims and TONS of African and Maylasian Muslims).

  5. Some Muslims are descendents of Isaac (e.g. Edom/Esau is in the ancestry of Jordan).

  6. The "his hands will be against this brothers" was a prophecy just about Ishmael (and presumably his household, as with most such statements), with no mention of his remote descendants in the text. Genesis leaves him (with no further mention) dwelling in the Arabian peninsula in 'independence' (not 'military defiance', btw). Unlike Esau, Ishmael is never made into the 'figurehead of opposition'. Modern antagonism on the part of a small subset of today's Muslims would be difficult to trace back to this prophecy (e.g., if it WERE a prophecy of all of Ishmael's descendants, then ALL/MOST them--muslim or not-- would be 'at hostility' with all OTHER Arabs--"their brothers", see?).

  7. God never stated anything negative about Ishmael's remote 'descendents'--only that He would BLESS Ishmael (not curse him!!!) and make him a 'great nation'-- as an answered prayer to Abraham (who loved Ishmael). They (as inhabitants of Sheba/Seba), will honor the Millennial king with gold--Psalm 72.10,15. [This is important: God BLESSED Ishmael; He never BLESSED Esau. Blessing is special.]

  8. Strictly speaking, MOST of the original Arabs (from the Arabian peninsula) were NOT descendants of Israel:
    "In the Table of Nations (Gen. 10) a number of Arabian tribes are mentioned: among the descendants of Joktan (of the line of Shem), Hazermaveth, Sheba, Havilah, and others (10:26–29); and among the descendants of Cush (of the line of Ham), Seba, Havilah, and others (10:7). If Cush is to be taken to mean Ethiopia, then the relationship of the south Arabian peoples and the Ethiopic peoples (or some of them), which is clearly indicated linguistically, may lie behind the dual reference in the Semite and Hamite genealogies. We also find northern Arabian tribes mentioned among the descendants of Abraham by Keturah (Gen. 25:1–4) and by Hagar (25:12–15), and among the descendants of Esau (Gen. 36). At the time of Solomon, contacts with the Arabian peninsula are indicated, both in the visit of the Queen of Sheba (1 K. 9:26ff, etc.) and in the tribute from the “kings of (the) Arab” (2 Ch. 9:14)." Bromiley, G. W. (1988; 2002). The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Revised (Vol. 1, Page 220). Wm. B. Eerdmans.

That being said, there is a huge religious contention between Judaism and Islam over the Abrahamic passage (e.g. which son was offered on the altar by Abraham), and over some of the 'shared' religious sites. But it doesn’t have anything to do with today's contention--as far as I can tell. Most of the extremist Muslim-subset polemic against Israel (and allies) has to do with the 1967 war, apparently, although tensions have always run high since Israel was given back the Land after WW2.

But, in context, Christian-Muslim tensions were so much higher than Jewish-Muslim tensions for centuries and centuries longer.

The OT hostilities were mostly between Israel and Egypt (non-Ishmael), Israel and Moab/Ammon (descendents of Lot, Abraham's nephew), Israel and Canaan/Philistia (no relation to Abraham), Israel and Amalek (descendants of Esau), and Israel and Esau/Edom (descendant of Isaac). The major wars with Assyria and Babylon would have involved SOME Ishmaelites, but those nations were pre-Abrahamic in origin and of mixed nationalities by the time of the wars with Judah and Israel. Some of the Midianites are associated with Ishmaelites (as Bedouins) in the OT [they were decendents of Abraham by Keturah, so they would be 'brethern' of Ishmael also], so there is SOME hositily (e.g, the Midianites that Gideon fought were said to be Ishmaelites and Psalm 83 lists them as being in league with all the other enemies of Israel (long before there was Islam, obviously!), but it is minute in comparison to other peoples... smile. The Midianites are not all bad, either, since Moses' father-in-law was one (also called a Kenite), and the Kenites are probably also Ishmael-related (as were the dutiful Rechabites). They gave gifts of gold and flocks to Solomon and Jehoshaphat (2 Chr 9.14; 17.11).
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        From Genesis chapter 21, we are told the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, – the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ – is clearly also the God of Ishmael! The Bible tells of God’s salvation of the world through His chosen being a covenant people, the descendents of Abraham, traced in spiritual link of faith directly back to Abraham. And according to the Christian Bible, these encompassing both those in faith called righteous under law, and those in faith called the righteous under grace, remembering Abrahams faith as righteousness was neither by baptism, nor knowing Christ as Messiah.

        Abraham is described as the father of all of us who have faith, Paul also assures that God has not rejected his Jewish brothers, being those temporarily of hardened heart. Abraham is the founding father of the people of God, we count ourselves as having a part being the people of God. Abraham’s people were God’s ‘chosen people’. Abraham is the father of faith, his story is our story, his our God is also Ishmael’s God, and the tribe or nation of Ishmael is then those in obedient faith that worship the true God. Certainly it was not the law made righteous but obedient faith from which God in the first covenant called the upright and righteous, apostle Paul describes this in Rom 2:13-16 — as the 'doers of the law', in the Greek— NT:4163 as poietes (poy-ay-tace'); from NT:4160; a performer; specifically, a "poet"; KJV - doer, poet.

        In the following scripture will be shown that indeed God has chosen a people, by faith both from the law and also from grace. In both during life it is by 'Faith' often described as relationship between bride and groom, in covenant obedient keeping love relationship as with the Lord our God. Within the Old Testament of law, the 'upright and righteous' were those who lived by faith, this marriage relationship between God and His chosen as described in [NIV] Mal 2:16 "I hate divorce," says the LORD God of Israel, ...So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith," and in Hab 2:4 "...but the righteous will live by his faith..." In this covenant relationship yet of flesh nature to sin, Christ did not come to do away with the law, but to fulfill the law.

        God loved Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and He loved Ishmael and his children also. God had a special plan for the life of Abraham and his descendents, and He had a special plan for the life of Ishmael and His descendents as well. The God who loves and bleeds for you is the same God who loves and bleeds for them. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the God of Ishmael also, reminding of the little known promise of God in Ezek 47:21-23 "You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who have settled among you and who have children. You are to consider them as native-born Israelites; along with you they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. In whatever tribe the alien settles, there you are to give him his inheritance," declares the Sovereign Lord."

        One last mention of an error so many Christians are taught and believe without testing as the word of God instructs. This is the belief that only Christians know the true name of God, apparently willing to ignore the Hebrew name we copy or translate, was not the true name of God, but a title of honor the Hebrew people spoke in fear and in righteous honor. Compounding their error, many charge that other than the English God, all others are false... in this case which of the following are false gods [Gott, Gut, Godt, Goed, Dieu, Dia, Dio, Gual, Bog, Allah, Theos].


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